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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: TLG is NOW!!! Reply with quote

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Thursday, October 30, 2008
Riding the Line

There’s a great movie with Charlton Heston in it called Will Penny. If you’ve never seen it you should check it out some time. It’s basically about a old cowboy whose job is to ride the line and repair and fix fences that have fallen. Along the way he has several adventures and a few shoot outs. Very good stuff all told.

With that in mind its time to repair a few fences here at TLG. We’ve been very busy since Gencon and I’ve not had time to keep up with the message board or this blog as I should. Our schedule has been turned upside down, Crusader has gone monthly and my box maker had a near brush with fiscal collapse which directly impacted our new game marketing approach. Couple all this with normal day to day grind, some burn out on my end and various and other sundries and your left with a fence that needs some fixing.

So let me be my own Will Penny. There’s good and bad coming down the pipe. Lets start with the bad as well, its bad, and its best to take one’s medicine before the ice cream.

Gygax Games has withdrawn all licenses from Troll Lord Games. This includes Gygaxian Fantasy Worlds, Gord the Rogue, King of England King of France, C&C Adventures as well as Castle Zagyg. This is a note from Gail:

“A fond farewell from Gail Gygax:

I want to thank all at Troll Lord Games for the joy, laughter, and support they gave my late husband these past eight years. Many of you are wondering what is in store for various worlds created by Gary. To that end, I have, with TLG’s good wishes and blessings, embarked on a new journey.

Gygax Games will now take up the mantle as the vehicle for the continuation of Gary’s unfinished works, plus the Lejendary Adventure™, Castle Zagyg™, and Gygaxian™ Fantasy Worlds product lines. There are lots of fun surprises ahead!

This does not preclude Gygax Games from working the Troll Lord Games and I hope to do so in the future. To that end, I look forward to seeing everyone in Lake Geneva in the summer of 2009 for the convention!

So to Steve, Davis, Mark and Peter – I thank you.”

I cannot really comment on the whys and wherefores of this decision. Obviously TLG had planned on publishing Gary’s material for several years to come, but this is not to be. TLG and Gary had a great run I think, and I personally am very proud of our achievements and still marvel at what we, Gary and the TLG crew, managed to do in the past eight years. On a personal note working with Gary was always a pleasure and I looked forward to his emails, sitting on his front porch, having a smoke and chatting the world away. He was a good friend to me and I’ll always remember the first toast we made in the Old Town Serbian Café. Here’s to you Gary!

So now what for TLG?

First we finish the last two projects we are working on for Gary and tie up the rest of the loose ends. Upper Works is still being produced and sold through TLG. We’ll ship a limited number of copies into distribution on the 13th of November. We will continue to sell them through our website. They will not be available on Amazon as the time to get it entered and the trouble it takes to remove items is too much and our number of copies that we can sell is too limited. The reason we have not released this into distribution is we keep selling into our distribution copies. I have to ship a minimum to meet demand or ship none at all. This plays into our Box maker which I’ll get to shortly. The second items of Gary’s we are wrapping up is the series of articles How it all Happened. These we’ll finish in Crusader 13 which should ship out this week or early next.

Once these two items are done we’ll have only the back stock on existing GFW titles and Gord to move or sell.

Everything has to be moved out by December 31, 2008.

So what’s next for TLG. With the removal of so many titles from the roster, about 20 or so, what does that do to our schedule? Obviously it negatively impacts it in the short run as we have to fill in the many holes. This isn’t such a bad thing. Its allowing me to move all manner of projects up on the table that really just considered before as Gary’s material was more important.

Much of what is coming is retooling from products to personal. Here’s what we have:

Up first our some personnel issues. Todd gray actually came back to work for us, picking up bi-line work with me on several of my projects. Of that I’m very happy, Todd and I work well together so hopefully we can pick up some of the old magic and make some sweet books like Heart of Glass and Winter Runes. Mac Golden has come out of hiding with a load of magic items and monsters for the upcoming M&T 2 and M&T of Aihrde. James M. Ward has offered all manner of assistance and with the soon to be released Towers of Adventure we are happy to oblige him. And of course Casey Christofferson, Casey Cannfield, Robert Doyel and Mike Stewart have all jumped forward with various projects and offers of assistance. Presently I have these writers on several scatter shot projects, work here and work there. Much of it to fill areas in projects now removed from the schedule. In the coming days I’m going to email each one of them personally and discuss their strengths and weaknesses and give them projects that will prove mutually beneficial.

Up next is the projects:

First up is the C&C game. I am a little stunned to announce that the 4th printing is upon us! Suddenly I find myself with only a 3 month supply of Players Handbooks and surprisingly a 3 month supply of Monsters & Treasures, 5 months at the outset. Peter and I will begin working on the layout today as he has finished up Arms and Armor and I’ve managed to wrap up some of my paper work that has been outstanding for several months. Once done we’ll be able to recharge the whole line. It won’t be anything tremendously different, but I am investigating looking into a few new format approaches. More on that as it comes to me. These new printings will coincide with the release of the CKG and the new hardback book by Mike Stewart and Casey Cannfield: Halls of Adventure. All this in early 2009. There may be some price increases but we’ll have to see how that goes. I hate to raise prices in a coming recession, but we’ll see.

All the scheduling issues have allowed us to bring a project we’ve long cherished back to the fore, the re-release of Ernie and Luke Gygax’s The Lost City of Gaxmoor. This project has sat on a back burner for a long time and we planned to couple it with other projects, but now we can give it the full attention it deserves. In some ways this if full circle for us as Gaxmoor came out before even any of Gary’s projects. I’ve talked to both Luke and Ernie and there is even a chance we’ll see more from them in the future. Peter has already started on the maps (remember peter likes to work on LOTS of things at the same time).

Beyond this we intend to grow the C&C line tremendously. Monsters and Treasure 2 by Robert Doyel and other writers is well under way as it Monsters & Treasure of Aihrde. We are going to couple these with more Siege Gear books in the same style as Engineering Dungeons and the soon to be released Arms and Armor. There is a great deal of room to grow the C&C brand and with you continued support and help we will do it. 2009 should be a very exciting year for all this.

The Siege Engine games are moving along as well. These items have been stalled for a very long time as we worked out the logistics of how to bring them to the public. We discovered this in the box making talents of good sir Partrick Nehan of Diamond State Specialty Box company. By controlling costs and working with TLG, DS gave us a golden opportunity to bring box set games to market. With this we able to release Starsiege and make plans for Victorious, Harvesters and Pulp Siege. All these are in the schedule and set for a quarterly release beginning next year.

A hitch was thrown into our long term plans as well as the release of Upper Works in August/September. Diamond State suffered some serious problems (clients failing to pay and one major injury) from which we were not certain if they could recover. This impacted our production of the Upper Works boxes as well as Towers of Adventure. I could have jumped ship on Patrick and found another box maker, but it didn’t seem right. Patrick had given me great prices and service in the past (if you own HOMP, LA Essentials you have his handy work) and we had a well laid out plan for the future. So I decided to brave the storm and stick with him to see if he could pull his business out of the slump. It was probably not the best business move, but if any of you know me well, you know loyalty is a word with meaning. “I’d rather die blind and ragged” . . . . And yes this meant the delay of Upper Work’s release to the general market and for the fans and retailers who are eagerly waiting for this, I apologize, but I stand by my decision to wait for Patrick to recover.

And it seems that DS has managed to recover and is back in business, if much reduced from 5 months ago. They are producing more Upper Works boxes as we speak to cover the shortage mentioned earlier. As well as that we are laying out the next box set for them. So wish them luck and if you’re inclined send a short prayer. They’ve had a rough ride.

There’s lots of work to do here at TLG. The C&C game hasn’t even entered a complete stage yet as the CKG isn’t finished. Tons of supplements, monsters, game aids and adventures are waiting for the light of day and need developing. There’s much to do and we’ve got to get to doing it. Siege Engine is on the cusp of being born and we are working on a Swords and Sorcery brand as well.

So I leave you all this information to digest, certain that I’ve raised many questions and not answered many more. But rest assured TLG is adjusting to these latest developments (remember I’ve had some time to adjust to them personally) and will move forward as we always do, but for now I've a little more fence to ride.

Thanks for playing,
Steve

Ps: I’ve only just discovered the Trailer Park Boys. Oh my lord. Best show I’ve seen in a long time. Its actually begun to impact my work schedule!! Check it out if you have time.


It's all right here

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I'm thinking that the sooner this fiasco ended, the better. Now TLG can move on with their own slate of projects and they don't have to worry about anybody else looking over their shoulder. Though I love CZ, UW, and the EM I'm damn happy with what I got from TLG on this. DAMN HAPPY.

Now, let's get started on what the rest of this blog entry means... SWORD AND SORCERY LINE.. WE NEED THAT INFO NOW! Whatever it is, it sound right up our allys, probably.

From the outside looking in, it seems like a certain amount of pressure has been lifted. And from there, things can move along a lot more smooth.

Bring it home boys.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to finally get official word on all of this, and I can't really say I'm upset by any of it.

This just means TLG can do some more "in house" focusing and maybe.....just maybe get us some better production times on the slew of kickassedness they already have in the works.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omote wrote:

Now, let's get started on what the rest of this blog entry means... SWORD AND SORCERY LINE.. WE NEED THAT INFO NOW!


Well, I've got cover art started for it... *ambles off whistling* Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet it has a hawt chick on it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured something like this was coming. I guess we will have to wait and see how Gygax Games handles the CZ stuff. I am skeptic without Jeff at the helm, but we shall see.

This in no way will sway my loyalty to TLG. You guys rock! I will continue to buy their products and look forward to their future releases.

Now, get back to work Trolls, we need the CKG! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have horribly mixed feelings on this whole affair. I've known both sides for the last 6-7 years and have grown fond of both sides. I really hated to see this happen.

But, I'm glad that these developments mean that my anthropromorphic game (Wheat Hollow: The Harvesters) will see the light of day faster! Smile However, I truly had hoped that the rest of Gary's Castle Zagyg would be finished by the TLG crew. They had all the pieces to make this a truly unforgettable series. I'm not sure what Gygax Games has in store for it, but I really have my doubts about it.

It is what it is and we have to live with it! a_furious

So, it's time to dust off our pants, get on that horse, and kick some ass with C&C and all the other TLG future projects!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aladar wrote:
I figured something like this was coming. I guess we will have to wait and see how Gygax Games handles the CZ stuff. I am skeptic without Jeff at the helm, but we shall see.

This in no way will sway my loyalty to TLG. You guys rock! I will continue to buy their products and look forward to their future releases.

Now, get back to work Trolls, we need the CKG! Laughing


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I feel exactly the same.

You Trolls can count on my continued support, it has been well-earned.

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I bet it has a hawt chick on it.


Naturally. What else in a S&S game?

Sides, a hot chick on the cover sells 40% more books. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...lets review:

Jeff T. (Gary's understudy on this project) no longer working on CZ...check.

TLG no longer producing or involved in TLG...check.

This does not bode well for my future purchases, unless it totally "wows" me, which I will admit I'm skeptical.

But yeah, I am interested in some of the stuff that is forthcoming. Siege Gear, Gaxmoor, Swords and Sorcery sounds very intriguing!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gideon_thorne wrote:
Sides, a hot chick on the cover sells 40% more books. Very Happy


Which is a 10% increase in eye-candy sales over 2007.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect the remainder of CZ is going GSL, after all, that's where the money is. And I definitely won't be buying it. Evil or Very Mad

I will happily continue to buy TLG products, and hope that more focus will be brought on Airdhe and Haunted Highlands.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say I will be inclined to support lines that move away from C&C, no matter what they are.

I just want to add my thoughts and hopes for Steve and TLG that they don't get disheartened and (as the blog suggests) it's full-steam ahead on all the rest of C&C (sure sounds like it and that makes me glad Smile )

Rest assured there are others of us out here who are going to continue not only to buy C&C product lines, but also continue to submit and contribute where we can in our own little ways. Have no fear that we shall continue to plow forward with the C&C Society in its endeavors with the Domesday Book and other stuff!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had been hoping that Gygax Games would at least let TLG publish the Dungeons as a boxed set, but alas it is not to be. BUT I love C&C and will continue to support TLG. More Aihrde, and HH will be bought by me. As will the CKG and most of the other siege gear. I would love to see them shift some resources into more Universal adventures too. I've got U1-3, now where's U4?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the delayed "official" comment, I had hoped there would be good news. Alas, no. Guess I'll have to quickly purchase the Eastern District pdf, not to mention pdf back-ups of everything else CZ. I'm correct in assuming, that all CZ products were available in pdf except for Yggsburgh hardcover, and the Upper Works box? Would have been nice to have the Dungeons. Oh well. I'm just one of the fan boys, but I got the impression that Gary would have stuck with TLG. Then again, I'm not one of his family members, I don't have access to the will, or whatever. Short of doing CZ ala LA(Mongoose), they have to be going with the GSL. I don't understand the why's and what for's, but I harbor no ill will toward Gail and company. Anyway, I'll still be pouring my money into TLG's existing lines(love em'). If anything, one of my favorite Trolls is back in the fold...TODD "Friggin'" Gray! That made my day despite the bad news. TLG we're still with you. Bring on the goods!
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